The Pelosi bill is a disaster and will be one if passed. There are many awful provisions locked up buried some where in the 1990 pages.
Obama, YOU LIE! you said there would be no tax payer funded abortions.
But, Page 110: "Requires the use of federal dollars to fund abortions through the government-run health plan -- and, if the Hyde Amendment were ever not renewed, would require the plan to fund elective abortions."
Page 111 -- Section 223: "Establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the 'Health Benefits Advisory Committee') to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase -- and would likely require all Americans to subsidize and purchase plans that cover any abortion." The death panels are back, by the way.
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Page 313 -- Section 512: "Imposes an 8 percent 'tax on jobs' for firms that cannot afford to purchase 'bureaucrat-approved' health coverage; according to an analysis by Harvard Professor Kate Baicker, such a tax would place millions 'at substantial risk of unemployment' -- with minority workers losing their jobs at twice the rate of their white counterparts."
So much for the "no new taxes" promise from the campaign.
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Page 297 -- Section 501: "Imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase 'bureaucrat-approved' health insurance -- the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign."
Page 336 -- Section 551: "Imposes additional job-killing taxes, in the form of a half-trillion dollar 'surcharge,' more than half of which will hit small businesses; according to a model developed by President Obama’s senior economic advisor, such taxes could cost up to 5.5 million jobs." This is the thing we talked about yesterday, $500,000 for single filers, million dollars, the income surcharge on those earners. A lot of people are small business owners, and they file on their personal 1040 form.
What happened to no tax increases on the middle class and small businesses.
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And possibly the scariest measure of the bill:
Page 94, Pelosi plan: "Prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government." In 2013, after the 2012 presidential election. In 2013, there is no private insurance allowed. The sale of it will be prohibited.
PROHIBITS THE SALE OF PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL HEALTH INSURANCE. FORCING INDIVIDUALS TO PURCHASE THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
And you're telling me this isn't a government overhaul!?!?!
The Baucus bill is looking pretty good right about now.
Stayed tuned for later in the week: More on the horrors that lie in the Pelosi bill, the new taxes, how much it will cost you, what the CBO says about it, and a little lesson from a state that knows to well about government run health care.
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most of these are false. I have the bill in front of me man. Where are you getting this?
ReplyDeleteIn fact all of them are ridiculous. I rescind my previous comments. They are all false or vast misinterpretations of legislation.
ReplyDeleteum look at the bill it clearly states, on page 110 B 17 a section on which it talks about when public funded abortions are allowed.
ReplyDeletethe tax can be found on page 336 sec. 551 number 20 and on a little bit.
Note some of these have a little spin with it. Not a direct quote, but a general idea.
I the bill doesn't say those exact words, but it does include a tax that i mentioned, and the funded abortions and provision for end of life stuff. Weather you consider that a death panel or not is a different question.
Ya the tax that you refer to charges the money that individuals make over $1 million dollars by 5.4%. Its a surcharge. That means you can make up to a million without being taxed and all income over that is taxed 5.4% and will affect about .3% of all households and 1.2% of sole proprietors, partners, and s-corporation shareholders operating a business. So the wealthy get taxed by the populists. How do you interpret that is the middle-class or small businesses? Misinterpretation on your part.
ReplyDeleteThe individual mandate (Sec. 501) states that if you don't purchase any health insurance you will be taxed because you aren't insuring yourself and aren't contributing to any insurance pool that would lower costs. The poor are covered by medicaid up to 150% of the FPL, and those from 150% FPL up to 400% FPL will see substantial government subsidies for insurance, so if you aren't purchasing your own insurance you won't be poor. The middle-class will be able to access the public option at minimum, and the wealthy have no excuse for now having any insurance so if you aren't contributing to a better and healthier society then I'm sorry. You get taxed. Tough break. I suppose that makes me a nazi. Or a populist?
There are no provisions that force you to purchase public insurance by 2013. Cite sections not page numbers if you want me to check it out. And cite the section on abortion as well because I don't have page numbers.But money can't go to abortions unless allowed under the hyde amendment as all federal policies operate. That doesn't change.
The national advisory board chaired by the Surgeon General will serve as a board for determining the basic cost-sharing package that a public option will offer. It will consist of three plans: basic, standard, premium, and premium plus. Cost sharing will vary in actuarial value ranging from 70% to 90% (In other words the 70% plan means that the plan pays for 70% of medical costs and the individual pays 30% and so on). The premium plus plan will offer additional benefits like adult dental or vision, gym memberships, or private hospital rooms. Death panel it is not, despite what the intelligent Sarah Palin says.
As for the 8% tax on jobs that you misinterpret... Well Max, it taxes businesses whose annual payroll that exceeds $500,000 annually. Small businesses are exempt. The tax applies to businesses who have an annual payroll of $500,000 to $750,000 and taxes 8% of the wages that an employer pays to its employees if it chooses not to offer health insurance to its employees (if it chooses to offer a plan from the exchange it isn't taxed at all). That money is kicked back and used to provide insurance to those employees who aren't covered by their employers, helping out the employed working class and incentivizing employers to offer insurance when they clearly can afford it. And you seem to pass over all of the tax credits offered? You should summarize those for everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe bill fines anyone who doesn't provide health care. A lot of small businesses can't afford health care. So they will get fined, taxes what ever you want to call it. Or they make lay off. Both are bad. That provision should be removed.
ReplyDeleteAlso mandating one to purchase health insurance, good or not, (bad) is unconstitutional. Regardless of how good it sounds. If one doesn't want to buy health insurance, the government has no right to force them to.
Can the government force you to buy carrots? No and they aren't allowed to force you to buy health care either. Your liberal agenda, or the constitution. Let me know how that goes for you.
Small businesses receive affordability credits that cancel out any "fines."
ReplyDeleteCarrots don't affect the livelihood of the country nor individuals. What it comes down to is the inflammatory and unbelievably shallow interpretations of legislation by the right to rouse the emotions of the public. Now your arguments were dismantled here. How do you reconcile with that fact? When you talk about mandating health care and the implications of that, it is a completely legitimate and an ideological argument that one can respect. But making nonsense out of legitimate legislation in order to stir up the public is not.